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Oddities of a new neighborhood...

There are a lot of dogs in the new neighborhood. In fact, so many, that ours have gotten bored and seldom respond to the Nightly Bark any more. There's one or two really high-pitched dogs that will bring the Bassets out quickly -- one of them is so shrill it sounds like it's been injured, and I react to that too.

It's kind of nice having the quiet dogs in the neighborhood.

This afternoon, though, Kent came home and grabbed Alyria and took her around the block, where a neighbor had their housepet staked out front.

A Shetland Pony.

I *do* like this neighborhood.

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dragon_smoke
May. 10th, 2004 06:42 pm (UTC)
WOW!!! I have never seen a Shetland Pony up close before. How long until she starts asking for a pony of her own, do you think?
teal_cuttlefish
May. 10th, 2004 07:16 pm (UTC)
She knows that the answer would be "we can't afford it." But she was very pleased with the sighting.
dragon_smoke
May. 10th, 2004 10:16 pm (UTC)
Good! And I understand about the high-pitched shrill. Goodness only knows what I would give to figure out what is going on with the dog I believe is catty-corner from me. I don't like the sounds he makes, and I mean that he sometimes sounds like he is in pain. But then again, it has sounded like there is a puppy there for the last year, so who knows? Could be a weird small dog. I am just very grateful mine are not "group barkers." They will not respond to other dogs barking or sirens or the like. But gosh darn it if Grendel doesn't fele the urge to give her full-throated barking voice (which we usually never hear) a run though at about 4 am if we leave the doors open. Grrrrrr.
teal_cuttlefish
May. 11th, 2004 08:42 pm (UTC)
Yeah, there's one dog in this neighborhood that sounds like it's periodically being skewered.
(Anonymous)
May. 11th, 2004 07:00 pm (UTC)
Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
I think it's interesting that the things you ask of people in your previous post, namely:
. I don't care for being judged and I'm pissed.
. I prefer to be informed in a caring fashion, not by attack mode.
. My issue is that it was...where people are making judgements that are incorrect and based on incomplete data.
. And this person could have told me without being abusive about it.

are all things that at multiple times you have failed to grant others in your life. Others at Dragonfest, others at OFM, others in your everyday life, others on your journal. You've jumped to incomplete conclusions before, you've judged others falsely before, you've attacked others before, and whether you've got the blinders on so you can't see it yourself or not, you've abused people before. Sometimes victims themselves turn into what they hate.

And yet you wonder why you keep going through so much grief and crap. I'd think someone who held the role of wise woman in the community would be able to figure these things out.

Maybe before you ask things of others, you shouldn't indulge in inflicting them on others; then maybe you wouldn't have to deal with these happenings. I wish you luck with it.
teal_cuttlefish
May. 11th, 2004 08:22 pm (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
Such courage, posting anonymously from an Adams County library to pick on me while I'm down! And on a post about a pony!

I'm impressed. And so frightened of your judgements that I've unscreened them so other people can see them.

I have valid reasons behind what I say, and I stand by my convictions. Apparently, you have neither.
dragon_smoke
May. 11th, 2004 10:03 pm (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
Oh goodness. I have nothing of value to say about the personal posts, but can I just admit that the mere mention of an Adams County LIbrary freaks me out?!
teal_cuttlefish
May. 11th, 2004 10:08 pm (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
Sorry, dear, didn't mean to freak anyone. Yep, the IP is 198.59.40.92 which is an Adams County library IP.
stephanielynch
May. 11th, 2004 11:26 pm (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
laughing. BOO
stephanielynch
May. 11th, 2004 10:04 pm (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
Jackass. Interesting that you are so cowardly to not name yourself. Interesting that you seem to be a part of the same community I am a part of yet you hide. Any witch worth his salt would have the courage to stand forth and be named. Guess you aren't much of a warrior, now are you?

No, I don't know who you are, but I know your type.
clarsa
May. 11th, 2004 10:41 pm (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
I recognize this attitude. A lot of young teens have it when they discover that their parents don't actually know everything. They become rebellious and condemnatory.

My mother's second husband was a priest. I learned that even adults, including older adults, can have ridiculous expectations of their ministers. So the ministers often pretend to be perfect, hiding their problems. This is one of the reasons I left the Christian church; I prefer a spiritual community where all people are allowed to be people.

My step-father was a real rat-bastard in a lot of ways. But I had to admit that he was a good minister. He spoke articulately and insightfully. He had a gift for teaching, and for listening, and he did minister to those in need.

Some years later, the HPS of my coven had a tendency towards personal melodrama. If she wasn't complaining about being taken advantage of, she was volunteering to be somebody else's victim. But I had already accepted that a person can be a good minister and still have their own issues. She was, and she did.

You're saying that Alia has occasionally reached a conclusion without having all the facts, and/or said something in a way that was more direct and less sensitive? Okay, I'll buy that. So what?

The mother of the female officer involved in the torture and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners said that she didn't see the problem. After all, didn't Iraqis do that to their prisoners? I can imagine the Iraqis justifying torturing prisoners by saying that Americans do it.

My point here is that the argument that nobody can object to abuse until there is no abuse anywhere, or that nobody has to get better until everyone gets better, is not only ridiculous, it's calculated to create an ugly, stagnant world.

Alia has written right here about her personal path, as she journeys through her own fallibilities. It isn't as if she thinks she's beyond the need for growth or accepts no responsibility for her problems. Yet she has been a minister in this community for many years, contributing more than probably 95% of the people in the community ever do. Just like there are 5000 people who will talk about how bad a movie is for every one who makes any movie at all, there are many people who will talk about what's wrong with Alia and the way she runs things who will never take part in creating a public ritual or teaching a workshop or hosting a drumming -- much less committing multiple years to a consistent resource for opening communication within the community and introducing people to paganism.

I'm not defending Alia. I'm no psychophant. In fact, I pointed out in a response to the relevant post that she acts bullet-proof and invites criticism and then gets hurt by it, and that she was using the same medium to vent about money worries and then to dream about what they'd like to do if they had the money and that could be confusing for some readers. But there's a difference between that and the way this other matter was handled. In brief, seeing the person who decided to go off on Alia as some kind of Sword of Karmic Retribution makes no sense.

Your final thesis seems to be that people who never abuse others will never be abused. That may be the case. Could you please point out just one individual who has never offended anyone so we can check with that person and see if they've ever been abused?
teal_cuttlefish
May. 11th, 2004 10:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
Especially since the Sword of Karmic Retribution and I are attempting to mend the friendship.
ferelwing
May. 12th, 2004 12:10 am (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
So in other words you are saying that it is ok to abuse someone else when they might have abused another?

Can a person not be human anymore? Can a person not make mistakes?

While we all make them I have yet to see Alia not own the ones that she has made and tried to fix them. It is up to those who are approached and asked for forgiveness to forgive but it is not your place nor mine to determine who is and is not capable of making the choice to be friends with someone else.

We all make our choices based entirely on our own criteria. Being subjective is part of being human. If you are expecting her to lose her humanity by being a leader then you are in for a nasty surprise. As it is being human that makes us all better able to understand the human condition.

Perhaps if you had the courage to show your face we might take your cryptic message with more than the mockery that it is recieving. However for now I suspect your the one in desperate need of looking in the mirror. Alia is at least public in her choices. Hiding behind this mask makes you far less respectable and less likely for your message to mean more than the drivel that we see.
gypsylady
May. 12th, 2004 06:24 am (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
I'm assuming you're suggesting she look in a mirror because you've done so? Did you see a reflection? Or are you training to be a high ranking psychic vampire?

If you have a beef with Alia, air it under your own identity. Some may disagree with you. Some may agree. But show your face so she knows whence comes the criticism. That way she can reply or make amends or explain or bitch back at you or whatever her appropriate response would be. To an anonymous post like this, the appropriate response is to snort and say, "Yeah, whatever."

However, I do have a question for Alia. Does Alyria remember that some of us promised her a pony when she was an infant? Please don't remind her!!!!!
lorredufae
May. 12th, 2004 10:19 am (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
You rock Suki...I agree. Only in times of great deep thought, should someone use an anonymous post feature. Tell people how you feel, and respect the fact that they are human, as are we all.

As for Alyria, if she ever comes to visit you, we can take her to my parents place and she can ride all the horses. My parents love to have 'horseless kids' over and let them experience riding horses in a secure and beautiful environment. Heck they even let some of them throw B day parties at their place for a small number of people.

teal_cuttlefish
May. 12th, 2004 01:38 pm (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
Shawn promised her the pony and he gave her a pony candle when she was about 5. She still has it, and love to hear the story behind it.
lillysraven
May. 12th, 2004 07:27 am (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
If you really desired to make a point, why not grow some and post who you really are. You must be a sad person to make such comments. You obviously lack friends of any character and in order to compensate for your lack of social support, lash out at someone who does. My suggestion would be for you to reign in your jealousy before it eats you alive.
uisge
May. 12th, 2004 09:43 am (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
Hmmm, interesting specimen of spineless piece of shit.
pirate_fae
May. 13th, 2004 10:41 am (UTC)
Re: Perhaps you should look into the mirror some more...
Again...don't hide behind anonymity. If you are so embarrassed by what you have to say...don't say it. If you are afraid of retaliation...consider why that retaliation might happen. Could it be because your opinion is flawed? Are you making the arguments against what you said already? Why hurt people on purpose, even if that person hurt you in the past (which I don't know if Alia did...I'm just surmising).

I don't know a single person who hasn't hurt/offended/upset/angered others at some (usually many) points in their entire lives. That doesn't negate their right to say how they themselves prefer to be treated.

Alia, for the dozen-odd years I've known her, has always endeavored to do what is right, even when it is unpopular. Does she always succeed? Of course not. But she always owns her mistakes when they come to light. She is one of the most good people I know.

Now how do I get down off this soapbox? :-)
iamcompubear
May. 12th, 2004 10:39 am (UTC)
poneys and stuff
Wow don't tell Kyria she'll want one.

as far as evrything else...

I really don't think the person is reading a thing. They obviuosly have a problem and rather then talking about is getting angry. I wish that would at least Identifie themselves I would like to know why they are fild with such hate.

Your are a good mother. If depretion and pain are reason for having a child taken away then so should my children. wright now I think I'm more depressed thatn you are and at least your doing somthing with your life. Your getting your degree. Depretion does not equel suiside.

If buying a new car constitues chld abuse then well I'm guilty too. Our new car seats more and has better safty features.

Please do not let this poor lost sole upset you.

It amazes me somtimes how much our lives have paralled. I'm my opion you've don't a better job with your life. Me I just give up.
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